Debate Open to the public and part of the “Venham Mais Vinte Cincos” initiative of the Municipality of Setúbal, this event brings together six personalities for an analysis of historical time and the future.
“O Tempo Histórico ea História do 25 de Abril”, which will be discussed today in a joint organization JN / DN / TSF with the Municipality of Setúbal – debate moderated by the journalist Pedro Tadeu -, at 10.30, in the Noble Hall of the Municipality, brings together six historians to analyze a democracy that has already achieved greater longevity [fará 17 533 dias na segunda-feira] with respect to the dictatorship [17 500 dias]. The debate, which will be opened by André Martins, mayor of Setúbal, and Pedro Cruz, director of TSF, will be broadcast live on the websites of JN, DN and TSF and on the TSF antenna.
Countless questions arise as we approach the 50th anniversary of April 25 and move further and further away from the initial ideas of “a classless society”, “the transition to socialism”, “the appropriation of the main means of production” and other political-ideological lines that marked the period of liberation from the dictatorship.
Now, “is it legitimate to expect that a greater distance in time will change the vision of the historical works, of a general nature, on the Carnation Revolution?”; “what period do we celebrate when we talk about the 50th anniversary of April 25?”; “Are the deadly violence of the Right of the MDLP during the PREC and / or of the Left of the FP-25 in the 1980s examples of what prevents, even today, a peaceful historical debate?”; “Has the State already” released “, from confidential or confidential documentation, all that it should release?”; “Was there a policy for the preservation of written, audio and visual historical documents?”.
These are just some of the paths for a debate on history and history: “Fifty years later, what history will be written on the Carnation Revolution?”.
Alberico Afonso Costa
Historian and coordinator of polytechnic education
It was months until the age of 23 when it took place on April 25th. “And clandestine, I had escaped because of the colonial war, not to go to war. I was around here, but I was going to go to France.” At that time he maintained political activity in the LCI (Internationalist Communist League) founded in 1973, of a Trotskyist character – which would later give rise to the PSR.
Born in Portel on September 26, 1951, he has lived in Setúbal since 1976. Perhaps that is why he is “as if he were from Setúbal”. Perhaps this is why, after many years of writing on the Estado Novo [Salazar e a Escola Técnica: a reforma tolerada num regime intolerante e F.P.A., a fábrica lecionada: aventuras dos tecnocatólicos no Ministério das Corporações são dois livros que destaca, entre muitos] began writing about the city of Sado.
If the reader, for example, wants to know José Afonso’s Places in the geography of Setúbal, just follow the 42 places that the historian identifies in an itinerary, by city and province, of spaces and paths.
Albérico Afonso has a BA in History, a Masters in 19th and 20th Century History and a PhD in Contemporary Cultural History and Mindset. He is currently coordinating professor at the Polytechnic Institute of Setúbal, integrated researcher at the Institute of Contemporary History of the FCSH-UNL and member of the Network of Studies on Corporatism and Organized Interests (NETCOR).
Antonio Costa Pinto
Historian, political scientist, professor at the ICS of the University of Lisbon
“There has been a revolution”. The sentence interrupted the meeting of the Associative Movement of Secondary Education Students of Lisbon, linked to the Union of Communist Students (Marxist-Leninists), which was taking place “at the home of a colleague in Campo Grande” and where “he was” , for example, João Carlos Espada “.
The then 20-year-old student activist – she would have turned 21 in September -, who was “recruited” in [Liceu] Pedro Nunes still remembers, “naturally”, his “controller” at the time – “Nuno Crato” – and what he did in the following hours. “I went out and bought” República “, the first uncensored edition”.
Born in Lisbon in 1953, he is in Florence, in 1992, at the European University Institute, where he obtained his doctorate. Inserted by ISCTE in 1999, he is currently research coordinator at the Institute of Social Sciences of the University of Lisbon and visiting professor at ISCTE, Lisbon.
He was visiting professor at Stanford University (1993) and Georgetown (2004), and visiting researcher at Princeton University (1996) and the University of California-Berkeley (2000 and 2010). He was also scientific advisor for the Museum of the Presidency of the Portuguese Republic.
He is probably the “political scientist” that the country knows best, due to his constant presence over the years in the press, radio and television.
Authoritarianism and fascism, political elites, regime changes, the impact of the European Union on Southern Europe are some of the main themes addressed in his academic works.
Historian, professor emeritus at the Universidade Nova de Lisboa
He had already been arrested twice. The first in January 1965, the second in August 1971. From the third he ran away because he had gone “underground, in January 1973”, but he “was walking in the outskirts of Lisbon”. “I went to the support houses of the MRPP, around Carcavelos, Parede, around,” he says. That early April morning – he had turned 28 a week earlier – “I was in another house, where the owner of the previous one had been arrested.” “Around five in the morning, Ilda, a young CP operator, woke me up:” Fernando, come and listen to the radio! “I got up and left. I went to look for Arnaldo Matos [um dos fundadores do MRPP].
I think I didn’t sleep well for a month, there was a lot of agitation. “The” activism against dictatorship “and the connection with politics started early. In 1960 he founded the Pro-Association Commission of High Schools; in 1961 he joined the PCP, from where he would leave seven years later; in 1970 he founded the MRPP; directs “Luta Popular” until 1977; from 1982 to 1992 he coordinates the history page of the “Diário de Notícias” – “bei times, those “; candidate for deputy of the PSR, since 1985; the doctorate in contemporary history takes place in 1990; founder of BE, in 1999, he was elected deputy three times and candidate for the presidency of the Republic in 2001. Full professor, ha has been the author of a dozen works on Estado Novo since 1985. “Salazar and power: the art of knowing how to last” was awarded by the PEN Clube Português de Ensaio in 2012. Born in Lisbon on April 18, 1946.
Irene Flunser Pimentel
PhD in Institutional and Political History of the Twentieth Century. XX, Persona Award 2007
Irene Flunser Pimentel was 22 on April 25, 1974. It was still “very early in the morning” when she received a phone call warning her that “something was happening. It wasn’t clear what it was, but there were troops in the street.” politically and not knowing what would happen, she was advised to go to a safe place: she took refuge in her parents’ house and did not set foot on the street all day. “I only went to Chiado on the 26th”, recalls the historian : “I can’t even tell the moment I started breathing.”
Politics would end up being left behind, a few years later, in favor of the academic path. Graduated in History from the Faculty of Arts of the University of Lisbon, Irene Flunser Pimentel holds a master’s degree in Contemporary History and a PhD in Institutional History and Contemporary Politics from the Faculty of Social and Human Sciences of the Universidade Nova de Lisboa. Researcher at the Instituto de História Contemporânea, she is the author of a long bibliography, including “History of women’s organizations in Estado Novo” or “The history of PIDE”, two of her favorite topics. With several awards along her path, in 2007 she received the Pessoa Prize – the jury then considered her “one of the most important figures in current Portuguese historiography”. Two years later, in 2009, she was awarded the Seeds of Science Award, in the Social and Human Sciences category.
José Adelino Maltez
Full Professor, Doctor of Political Science
When the first news of the Revolution reached Coimbra, José Adelino Maltez wrote about … autopsies and related issues: “I was taking the written exam in Forensic Medicine at the Faculty of Law”. The first piece of information was confusing (“my colleagues on the left – I was not on the left – were distressed because this was going to be a March 16 revolution. [o chamado Golpe das Caldas]of the spinolists, with whom I got along “) and it was only” in the middle of the afternoon that we realized what it was and where it was going “.
Adelino Maltez was then a student, in the same city where he was born in 1951 (but where he left for Porto, where he grew up). He graduated in 1974, and then left for Lisbon, where he worked as an assistant in various governments. He remembers in particular his work with the Social Democrat Magalhães Mota, which began in 1976: “I saw how pluralist democracy was done from within.”
With a PhD in Social Sciences, specializing in Political Sciences, from the Higher Institute of Social and Political Sciences (ISCSP) of the University of Lisbon, Adelino Maltez is full professor at the same institution. In addition to the numerous works published in his field of study, he has also edited five books of poetry. Father of three children, grandfather of three grandchildren, he defines himself “against the tide” and does not like the term political scientist: “I prefer republic, a classic sixteenth-century expression for those who dealt with things in the polis”.
General Director of Books, Archives and Libraries
Silvestre Lacerda learned of the Carnation Revolution through a phone call, but with the right to first-hand information: his brother was one of the operatives who occupied the RTP facilities and called home to tell what was going on. At the age of 16 Silvestre Lacerda still tried to attend the high school where he studied, in Vila Nova de Gaia, but that day there were no more classes. “We all walked to Porto, to Praça da Liberdade, where a significant number of people were gathering,” he recalls. But the strongest experiences, recalls the current director general of the Book, Archives and Libraries, came later, with the “occupation of the headquarters of the Portuguese Legion in Coimbrões [Vila Nova de Gaia] and the creation of a nursery for children “.
Born on March 19, 1958, Silvestre Lacerda graduated in History from the Faculty of Letters of the University of Porto, with a specialization course in Documentary Sciences at the Faculty of Letters of the University of Coimbra. Senior technician at the Porto District Archives, he worked at the Portuguese Photography Center and, in 2005, assumed the role of Director General of the National Archives of Torre do Tombo. From 2012 to 2015 he was Deputy Director of the Directorate General for Books, Archives and Libraries, then assuming the direction of this body. Among his numerous works, from history to archival science, he is the author of the book “O hockey in skates in Portugal”.